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Ris Low, Miss Singapore World 2009 winner
Ris Low, a beautiful student 19 year-old, was crowned the Miss Singapore World 2009 during the pageant held last Friday July 31, 2009.
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MISS RIS LOW, winner of Miss Singapore World 2009, who will be heading to London, Dubai and South Africa to take part in the Miss World 2009 beauty pageant.
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1 – 200 of 207 Newer› Newest»Seriously,Ris Low bought her crown. Everybody knows that. She can't even speak a proper sentence. She will definiteley win Singapore the " Beauty NO Brains " title if there was one. Too bad there isn't! :( Poor Ris is gonna come back empty handed and everyone knows that! Extremely bias judges.
nor surprising. rumored that she has a sugar daddy to buy the crown for her.
OM MY GOOD LORD!!! You mean Miss. Booms aka as Miss Persona-li-li-ty (watch her interview at RazorTV) won the crown! Jeez! Did we appoint deaf judges?!? Did they not hear how she sounds when she opens her mouth? Is this what is going to represent us in SA? Hope the pageant is going to be held at the Zoo in SA. Maybe the animals wont mind how she sounds!
What a shame! Now the world is probably gonna think Singaporean girls are just a bunch of bimbos, and worse than Ms Ris Low.
What have we become? You mean Singapore don't even have a single lady who looks good, got brain and can talk properly?? What a big shame!
The sugar daddy should save that 50k and buy some lessons for her.
i think those judges are retarded.
i dont blame her,blame the judges.
i'd rather our country not join miss universe if we don't have a suitable candidate instead of just picking one with low quality.
The western have blondes has bimbos, now asia has bimbos who cant speak proper english....LOL. and yes...judges is deaf!
not even pretty, no brains, cannot speak english to save her life, and has atrocious pronunciation and diction... what a bloody disgrace to singapore... i think the judges should wake up and see what kind of terrible image this girl is gonna portray to the WHOLE WORLD....
I have to agree to EVERY post that are already on here! I think she's a TOTAL DISASTER and with her English, I can't imagine the amount of shame she'll bring to the country and seriously! I think organizations, sponsors and everyone involved in making the event happened need to do some serious soul searching to have chosen someone like this to represent not only Singapore but their products and their own brands. Not only will she trash the image of Singaporean girls but SINGAPOREANS in general when Miss World 2009 actually start airing around the world. and SERIOUSLY ... ZIP-BRAS ??!!
This is a sham... there i go BOOM!
http://misscontest.blogspot.com/2009/08/ris-low-miss-singapore-world-2009.html
Please do not vote for Ris Low. If the video doesn't tell you why, I don't know what else can convince you.
I hate to say this, but I will anyway... Is this young lady SERIOUSLY the best Singapore has to offer? You've GOT to be kidding me! Given that these sorts of contests don't usually attract the 'highest' calibre of local women to begin with, there are plenty of women on your sunny island who are capable of holding an intelligent conversation while being pleasant on the eye. No offence to the young lady in question, but I'm inclined to agree with the comment about animals in the zoo. There is more to beauty than a pretty face, and at such a young age, it would be in her best interest to see this as an experience to improve herself - in more ways than one. Perhaps she'll come down with a mysterious case of laryngitis so all she'll be able to do in SA is smile :)
This is totally absurd. I can't believe she's even taking a diploma. Perhaps she should just admit that she's taking her PSLE this year? Oh wait, what's that you're telling me? You mean she hasn't even graduated from kindergarden yet?
She is not rich. She stays in HDB. She comes from a predominantly mandarin-speaking family. She goes to neighbourhood school. So what do you expect? She is a product of our education system. Don't blame her. Blame our education system. By the way, she got A1 for her "O" level English.
She is definitely not stupid but she just cannot articulate as well as she is not exposed to such interviews and such.
She would be better off speaking singlish like what she is doing everyday instead of trying to "sound" different. And yes, her diction is poor and pronunciation atrocious. But is beauty contest only about the ability to speak and string a couple of sentences together. She fails miserably in this aspect but it is not fatal, is it?
She has a heart of gold. Very kind-hearted girl. She has no airs about her and she is friendly and polite to everyone - including taxi uncles or the cleaning-aunties. I believe she would be a great ambassador for charity work.
She has a beauty of a heart which unfortunately, most of us cannot see.
And if you must assign blame. Blame the judges. They chose her.
and how do you know all these, happyeverafter?
Because I know her personally
Happyeverafter = Ris Low
Betty,
No.. I am not Ris Low. Notice that I am more conversant in English than she is?
I am a guy by the way. I just happen to know her personally.
i can definitely believe what happyeverafter said is true.. ris low may or may not be kind-hearted/generous/sweet/etc., and there may be unfair slander abt her buying the crown or whatever...
BUT the bottom-line is her english is atrocious and the whole concept of someone who's speaking that way being miss sg world is unbelievable - no need to think in terms of the whole country yet, don't tell me there isn't a single girl in that pageant who's pretty, plus has a REASONABLE STANDARD of english???
ris low definitely can be considered pageant-winner material in terms of looks (singapore-standad anyway) - but it's not like she was miles ahead of the other contestants. surely there was some other contestant who is as or almost as pretty, but can better represent the image of sinagpore in a global competition??
I DO blame the judges.
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?? WHAT WILL THE REST OF THE WORLD THINK OF SINGAPORE GIRLS' STANDARD???
MD,
There are girls as pretty as her and probably can speak better than her. I was there in the finals watching.
In terms of look and poise and walks, Ris is probably among the Top 5. So what happen to the other contestants?
I cannot answer this question. You have to ask the judges. In the final segment of the questions and answers, Ris did well to answer her question. Some of the contestants did fumble although they could be more fluent.
The video interview was done a month before the finals and I think the judges did not see the video at all. The video is not part of the judging, unfortunately.
They based their judging on the preview + the finals itself.
There could be some problem in the judging process - I cannot comment further. Even as a friend of Ris, I did not wish for her to win knowing that she will be in the limelight and under extreme scrutiny especially with regards to her relatively poor speech and interviewing skills.
But as a friend of Ris and knowing her - she has a heart of gold. In terms of being able to carry out the duties of a Miss Singapore World with regards to charitable causes, she will be eminently qualified. And probably the judges saw a side of her that the rest did not see. Most of you only saw the video segment - the worst of her - which unfortunately was not used in the judging at all.
"By the way, she got A1 for her "O" level English."
generally A1 students do not do diplomas at MDIS.
Happyeverafter = Ris Low
how can you get A1 and NOT make it to local poly?! She must have flunked every other subject! and if her engrish is so terok already, wah lan, i don't want to begin on anything else!
I guess you people are really blur. She is studying in a local poly. The diploma at MDIS is the second course she is taking at the same time.
Her "O" level result is pretty decent. Would put many of you to shame. So don't make baseless assumptions.
She can't speak. FULLSTOP. That is it. Does not mean she is stupid or what. Make fun of her speech. Anything else is just your assumption.
so many comments , just wondering if any of these critics would have the guts to take part in any of these contest be it man hunk or boduy beautiful....
Kick her a** and make the 1st runner-up winner. I admit that Singaporeans' English isn't the best but this is just way too much! We are supposed to bring pride and honour to our nation, not disgrace ourselves. I know that this is a beauty pageant but hey, there has got to someone beautiful enough out there that can speak standard (I'm not even asking for fluent here) English so that at least we can understand what she's trying to say. And for those who try to argue for her that Malay is the official language, what are you trying to suggest? She can't even grasp the international language, lest learn another. If you are suggesting that Singlish is "Uniquely Singapore", perhaps you'd want to think again. I am very sure that there are proper occasions to use (and NOT use) it.
Anonymous and brains said: i totally agree with u guys. i think she slept with the judge and she bought her O level cert.
Since when did majority of Singapore start speaking 'standard' English anyway.
This girl's diction sucks! So let her answer in Mandarin when it comes to Q/A. I just hope she's quick enough to respond properly.
As far as physical beauty is concerned, she ain't too bad.
Note to happyeverafter:
are you seriously a guy? because i've never met a guy who has such a girly display name. I'm sorry darling, if i've offended you in anyway...
Er. Okay- Ris Low.
Right. Ms World is definitely about looks, but also about brains!
Its not just about stringing a few sentences together! Brains are important. She takes longer than a few seconds to gather her thoughts and come up with a less- than sloppy answer! The whole world is going to be watching this- its going to reflect badly on our country!- Judges, please, for the sake of everyone, get the hell off the panel and let the president or prime minister do the judging- they know how to pick a girl that is articulate and perhaps, faster in her responses.
Come on guys..be supportive will ya...listen to what happyeverafter has to say...this girl has a heart of gold..meaning to say...if Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela was a women and they were Singaporeans...surely..they would have easily won the pageant too...:p.....the weird thing is that..normally..pageant winners tend to stand out more than politicians or artistes...(in terms of looks)...now...easily..i would say that Fiona Xie or Eunice Olsen would probably have more heads turning when they strut down Orchard Rd. Plus...they would easily have a more decent grasp of English...and i'm pretty sure that they've been helping ppl just as much in their own ways...
Amethyst 6 '08,
Yes. I am a guy. You want to test me? Or you want to meet me?
Since when is Miss world more about brains? But that aside. Her inability to articulate her thoughts does not mean she is stupid.
If it is about ability to speak and brain.. then they should have auditions to ask contestants to speak and weed them out. And also IQ test as well.
But they have none of these.. They have catwalks and fashion parades. The contestants only require to give a brief introduction of themselves. Questions and answers only in the finals.
If you think she is crap.. then blame the judges as I said.. not her.
As I said, you can ridicule her diction or speech.
But not:
1) Accuse her of "buying" the crown
2) Sleeping with the judges..
3) Saying that she got no brain - obviously she has one.. she just has no ability of showing it.
4) That she bought her "O" level cert. OK.. tell me, how you buy?
And lastly, just how "shameful" it is for not being able to articulate well? Is face all that important to Singaporeans. Are we all so good and so proud in our ability to talk?
the above type of comments showed the "most ugly" side of Singaporeans. We just accuse for the sake of accusing - hiding behind the internet. Make baseless comments that cannot be substantiated..
Yes, it is fun to laugh at the expense of someone else. but it truly reflects the "smallness" in us. No empathy. And we all just feel so ashamed that we are associated with her that we had to demean her to such levels?
After all, she is only 19 years old. Cut her some slack.
I see this "mob lynching" mentality here but worse in STOMP and clubsnap..
When someone is down.. we take delight in adding to it.. stabbing in our knives..
Naturally for someone in the lime light and with such a bad interview - she will be expecting lots of criticism.
It is OK to criticize her speech, her diction or even her ability to think on the feet. But beyond that, why are we insinuating that she was sleeping with the judges or that she bought the crown or even her "O" level cert. These are below the belt attacks - totally uncalled for.
It just reflect so poorly on us. If it is Singaporeans that we should be ashamed of, it would be these people..
To Happyeverafter:
I'm sorry, i shouldn't have argued with you about your gender- you don't have to be so harsh now, do ya?
I'm sure Ris has a golden heart, but unlike what you implied, i have never ever said that she's crap, have i?
Ms World is about looks- they are certainly more important, and if she impresses the judges with her heart and looks then that's good for her, but there'sbound to be some interviews or such at Ms World with the contestants, and during the introduction, if she stumbles or can't articulate properly, then she's off to a bad start, isn't she? My advice to her is to take up some speech lessons- pronto.
actually..
i was part of the people attacking ms ris low personally..
but happyeverafter helped to change my way of thinking..
we dont know what shes like, and i still think she's the wrong pick by the judges to represent singapore.
but i agree that we should blame the judges, not her.
to happyeverafter: i laud you for standing up for your friend. continue to do so! :D though it may wear you down, and you may get tired..
to Amethyst 6 '08,
yes, she's going to take speech and catwalk classes in preparation for the finals.
everyone, please stop slinging mud at her.. she's already chosen, lets just wish her the best of luck with the classes! :D
Amethyst 6 '08
Is ok. Nothing personal.
And yes, she will be taking up speech training.
beryl,
And yes, I did not wish for her to win even though I know her personally. I also did not think she is good enough - especially in the speech areas.
But she is already chosen. So unless you want to petition for her to be strip of her title.. otherwise, what is the point of demeaning her?
It is not tiring actually but when Singaporeans criticize other people, they forgot to look at themselves in the mirror.
grrr ... ahappyeverafter writes with strong emotions -
can't do anything when monolingualism is widely practiced here. very bad for the economy ...
very bad for singapore's image being a multi-racial society!
Gosh, this is fast turning into an online battle. But seriously, if they want to hold a Ms World contest and not receive strong criticisms, than they definitely should just tape everyone's mouths and judge on their looks.
And even though " Beauty is better tha brains" thing applies in everyday lives, many people do not agree that it applies in Ms World or Ms Universe.
Than in that case, shouldn't they just judge on looks...cut the speech crap. If not, Singaporeans and many other countries with bad english- speakers are sure to come under the fire of the general public.
To Happyeverafter:
Haha, good luck with defending your friend, darling, there are many people who are definitely going to fight with ya;)
To happyeverafter:
You said that
"when Singaporeans criticize other people, they forgot to look at themselves in the mirror" and that it is this that reflects badly on us. How is that relevant to this argument? Sure we have our flaws, but you're exaggerating them to make your own point sound convincing, to make us feel guilty when we expressed our opinion. You're making us feel ashamed when we have done nothing wrong but simply express our views.
Secondly, while it is encouraging to hear that Ms Ris Low has a heart of gold, i do not believe that it can be used as an argument that she is deserving of the title. There are many people who has hearts of gold, so because of that should they all be deserving of Ms Singapore? If she has a heart of gold, but no well articulation or enough intelligence (no offense) then shouldnt she be much well off and suitable for becoming a charity ambassador instead of a national ambassador?
However, i do feel that everyone is being too harsh and ridiculous by saying that she won by buying her crown or doing somethings. We should not insult the other party, simply say what we think in an acceptable way. I truly apologize for that.
I hope her speech courses work, since i highly doubt her title will be taken back.
To Mollie- san:
Mollie- san has just conceived a brilliant yet arguable point, in which I agree with, yet not.
To Happyeverafter:
I certainly am not saying that you're wrong, but what I'm saying is that some of your points are actually self- contradictory.
I would like to make a point that getting A1 for english doesnt mean she's good at it!It could be a stroke of luck?Its the plain truth that her spoken English isn't very good, and in such competitions, articulation is important but the quality of the answer counts too! So if she comes out with a good answer, her poor command of English would be immaterial.
It's really easy to get an A1 at O-levels for English Language. As an EL teacher who has been teaching for a decade, I can safely state that it's quite surprising to see students secure A1 at O-levels for ELang and then struggle to pass General Paper in JC. O-level ELang is very easy because students can score simply by being able to write a decent narrative essay. GP, on the other hand, the real test of ELang ability requires conceptualization and argumentative skills. Those of you who diss the Spore education system, ask yourselves if you code-switch and speak like Riz at times as well. She is symptomatic of our culture. Riz's inability to speak is a reflection of how Sporeans speak in general in English. While it is surprising that she made it this far in the competition and that she actually chose to take part in the competition considering how difficult it is for her to vocablize her thoughts in an organized manner (as shown by the video), the people who really did a bad job are the judges and organizers. If we're not able to attract the right calibre of representatives for an international competition of this standard, we really shouldn't send anyone at all. Giving the international audience such a representative at a media event watched all around the world is a really bad publicity move for our country. We've spent so much money on F1, Youth Olympics, YOG, Humanitarian Funding...and when we finally open our mouths...it's Riz Low? If the organizers read this, for the love of Spore's honour, please get someone to tutor her NOW in basic articulation, current affairs and even knowledge about fashion before the pageant. YOU ORGANIZERS desperately need to do a PYGMALION now to prevent Singapore from being severely humiliated at this international event. Come on, if you guys chose the girl, for goodness sake, coach her before sending her into the Lion's Den in South America so that she doesn't sink even before she gets there.
It's really easy to get an A1 at O-levels for English Language. As an EL teacher who has been teaching for a decade, I can safely state that it's quite surprising to see students secure A1 at O-levels for ELang and then struggle to pass General Paper in JC. O-level ELang is very easy because students can score simply by being able to write a decent narrative essay. GP, on the other hand, the real test of ELang ability requires conceptualization and argumentative skills. Those of you who diss the Spore education system, ask yourselves if you code-switch and speak like Riz at times as well. She is symptomatic of our culture. Riz's inability to speak is a reflection of how Sporeans speak in general in English. While it is surprising that she made it this far in the competition and that she actually chose to take part in the competition considering how difficult it is for her to vocablize her thoughts in an organized manner (as shown by the video), the people who really did a bad job are the judges and organizers. If we're not able to attract the right calibre of representatives for an international competition of this standard, we really shouldn't send anyone at all. Giving the international audience such a representative at a media event watched all around the world is a really bad publicity move for our country. We've spent so much money on F1, Youth Olympics, YOG, Humanitarian Funding...and when we finally open our mouths...it's Riz Low? If the organizers read this, for the love of Spore's honour, please get someone to tutor her NOW in basic articulation, current affairs and even knowledge about fashion before the pageant. YOU ORGANIZERS desperately need to do a PYGMALION now to prevent Singapore from being severely humiliated at this international event. Come on, if you guys chose the girl, for goodness sake, coach her before sending her into the Lion's Den in South America so that she doesn't sink even before she gets there.
Mobile-san,
I have absolutely no arguments about people wanting to criticize her speech or her diction or even her ability to think. I think it is valid after watching the video.
But here are many uncalled comments that she bought the crown, that she slept with the judges or even bought her o-level cert. These are not relevant at all and totally unsubstantiated.
The reason I mentioned about her heart of gold is because there are many qualities of her (required for a beauty queen) that has gone unnoticed.
At the very outset, I said that I also think she is not good enough to win because of deficiency in the speech area but somehow she won.
I refer to anonymous on 12 Sep 11:41am.
EXACTLY. As I said in the preview there are not required to answer any question. Just a short introduction of themselves.
In the FINALS itself, she did answer her question well - to the applause of everyone present. Her spoken English may not be good but her answer is short and sharp and to the point. some of her closest competitors fumbled with their answers although they could speak better English.
I am just saying that if you want a beauty queen to be able to "speak properly" then you could have a audition to eliminate those you think would not make it.
If you look at the criteria for selecting the beauty queen - the ability to speak and articulate is only judged in the question and answer segment.
As I said, the way she speaks is a reflection of how we educate and teach our students. She is really "so singaporeans" and most of us (especially those who speak mandarin at home), would speak like that.
Some of us would have more exposure and fare better. But if you are in a neighboorhood school and speaking mandarin most of the time, your spoken English would leave much to be desired.
And what so shameful about speaking in this manner. I would speak like her using Singlish most of the time but because I am much more exposed to the outside world having interaction of people from all over the world - I can change to speaking "standard English" easily.
I don't find speaking "Singlish" or having poor diction such a shameful act. After all, English is not our mother-tongue. People from other parts of the world are more forgiving to us for speaking Singlish. I have asked many foreign friends what they think of the "Ris low interview" - yes, they know that she cannot speak proper english but they are more understanding since they know that "English" is not her mother tongue. We Singaporeans are more harsh and as if we all can speak proper standard English most of the time.
Heated arguement but i see a group of mature online roamers making reasonable comments from their stand point, well, at least it's better as compared to youtube. Personally I think it's more than speech problem that Ris Low is having. First, she cannot converse well. I don't have to say much about it. But if she had decided to go for miss singapore and represent her country, she should at least take up some course to brush her language, reflexes and walk together with all the qualities that will be judged eventually. Should she has a heart of gold, logically, she should be able to show it out, shift the focus of audiences to her quality, rather than making them noticing something they shouldn't have. i know it's unintentionally but if she could be prepared for this competition, maybe all this wouldn't happen. BE SINCERE if she really wants this. she knows her shortcomings, she should worked on it before it goes on public and go ahead, amazed all her personal friends too. nothing comes easy. true she might be a kind-hearted girl and that's the exact reason why she should not be manified for the wrong reason. maybe she just went to the wrong competition 'cos miss singapore is too commercial and political for a 'kind-hearted' girl. no offences, just making reasons out of all these.
But i must say, it's really wrong to conclude and accuse her of buying or sleeping around for the title. yet, calling her 'no brainer' only shows what kind of responses she is getting for giving answers that is really not up to the audiences' expectation.
Again, if she cannot handle the media, maybe she's not fit for this. The competition is a callous fight between ladies. Blessed her.
Oh gosh. To the English Language teacher, who remained annonymous:
You're an english teacher. You write with perfect tense and grammar, yet spell Ris Low's name wrongly. Bravo.
Anyway, yes, we should not bash Ris Low, yes, she should take lessons pronto, yes, its the judges fault, but is does the list end there?
Ris is also partly to blame. If she knows that she cannot speak well, and she knows that her english is definitely no match for others, then why bother going?She mayhave won, but look at all the flak received from the general public. Pageants like these do not garner much media coverage, at least not until the winner emerges...which is why the best in us Singaporeans are not brought out. That is a very sad issue...
May be we shoot have a "Judge the Judge" contest instead. The judges - 90% belong to the "äh lian & ah beng" clan ! that'is why... oh dear i see zipbras coming in kaki-greens and running towards me like BOOM !
Laughed when I saw the clip, got sympathetic as I read some really presumptuous comments. Though I must ADMIT that there could be better choice (provided she doesn't have to speak), but like what most had said, it's the judges' fault, not hers.
Maybe we should put things in perspective. What if the interview was done in mandarin, and Ris Low speaks good english and sucks at mandarin?
Digress a little: Be it first or second language or whatever we call it, being Chinese and not being able to speak proper mandarin or intentionally despise the language (speaking chinese is viewed as lower caste to some singaporeans) is outrageous.
Maybe we should interview the interviewer in Mandarin and laugh over her poor diction instead.
Brian
happyeverafter = one of the judges ?
"I have asked many foreign friends what they think of the "Ris low interview" - yes, they know that she cannot speak proper english but they are more understanding since they know that "English" is not her mother tongue. "
get real happyeverafter with lots of excuses, foreigners laugh behind our backs when they hear singaporeans speaking singlish.
nobody is understanding - it is just your opinion .... this is the scenario pal ... oooh what a pity she can't speak english, lets give the job to the girl from china ... she speaks better english and we get to pay her less ! boss and girl = happyeverafter
kind hearted girls = shld not join the pageant, their hearts are too soft to take criticism. take yoga lessons instead and become a yoga instructor ... oops wrong remedy, instructors need to give instructions through their mouth and if they mispronounce and get their sentence wrong,the chiropractors will be making lots of money !
i think the teacher used spell check before posting her message that is why ris became riz ... hahaha
"I don't find speaking "Singlish" or having poor diction such a shameful act. After all, English is not our mother-tongue."
in that case lets see zebras become zipbras and boom boom wow wow newscasters ... and have pringing hospritarity parliamentary session just because english is not our mother tongue ... you go giirrl / boy ... ooh ooh wow wow pring pring yea
Ris...if you are reading these..please..u are representing Singapore. practice...real..hard..otherwise simply answer the questions posed in 'Singlish'introduce to the world what Singlish is..let them know its Singlish let the world know what 'Singlish' is..i bet thats better than English that carries fake accent..or rather broken english...just be Normal...
Judges..you are to blame......
anonymous post:September 14, 2009 9:02 AM
Firstly, I am not one of the judge. don't try to be smart.
Yes, I am real. I spoke to REAL friends who are foreigners - both native speakers of the English language and non-native speakers. Both types of foreigner are much more sympathetic and understanding than Singaporeans... who really think too much of themselves.. as if ALL of them can speak proper English..
By the way, she is taking the criticism very well for a 19 year old. It will spur her on to improve herself. And she never dispute the fact that she cannot speak well. But there are many other uncalled for remarks which is hurting for a young woman. She is not even an adult yet, legally.
And yes, speaking non-perfect English is not a shameful act. What if your mother or grandmother cannot speak English... is it that shameful?
Don't compare with newscasters. They are paid to speak proper English and they have to do it well. But is it a must for normal people in the streets to speak perfect English?
sadsmurf,
I agreed with what you are saying. I was telling her to speak naturally like how she is speaking everyday instead of "trying to sound different"
happyeverafter = you are over emotional and please stop over reacting ... vomit blood
everybody should have the common sense to speak good english and have the common sense to speak whatever type of english they want to speak especially if they are in the wet market or with the ahpek in the coffeeshop.
you should not dictate that since english is not our mother tongue that it is OK to speak bad english. and stop being smarty pants ... english is taught in schools so stop turning this into a emotional debate for your own convenience of speaking bad english!
sadsmurf = carry on being sad !
Anonymous September 14, 2009 5:37 PM,
Stop trying to be smart as well.
I did not say it is ok to speak bad english. But NOT everyone can speak good and proper english. So don't look down on people who can't. Your grandfather or grandmother probably cannot speak good English - what so shameful?
English is taught in schools.. but why students still speaking bad English + Singlish? Obviously, it is more than what that is being taught. The whole environment in which the language is being spoken has to be taken into account.
People of the lower-income group - they speak mostly Mandarin at home. When in school talking to their friends, they speak Mandarin and Singlish although some may speak proper English. We need to change the whole environment..
you wrote "Your grandfather or grandmother probably cannot speak good English - what so shameful?"
hey why you bringing grandfather and grandmother in the picture - got nothing else to talk about is it?
let met tell you ... people of that generation was so accomodating and was nothing like YOU or what is happening to the your generation now ... they spoke malay to everybody the language of communication during that time. and if they cannot speak english to others of different races, they spoke malay - smarty pants ... the language of communication ... at that time ...
talk about NOW not about the grandmother and grandfather era ...
What I am saying is not being able to speak proper English fluently is not shameful. There are many people out there on the streets who can't speak proper English. They need to hide?
How well we speak depends on the environment that we grow up in - the language we use to converse on a daily basis. And what so shameful about growing up in a pre-dominantly mandarin-speaking environment?
Yes. Granted that there are people who can speak good english despite the environment that they grow up with.. but surely, we don't have to hang everyone with shame for not being able to speak proper English.
Don't speak well.. just need to learn and improve. Why must people ridicule these people with shame.. so that they will not speak again? And they remain stagnant and not improve?
Beauty? What beauty. Her face looks like it has been ran over by a truck...
Geez... not only do we need send these contestants for english classes, gotta send them for cosmetic enhancements too.
:P
I would like to point out a mistake in the grandfather/ grandmother point.
Well, yes, most grandparents cannot speak good english well- but it is not like most of them are actually trying to speak english, are they?
Ris wanted to speak english, and so that's the result of it: lots of slandering.
so why bring grandparents into the picture when they are not attempting to disgrace singapore?
To that Anonymous who said Ris Low's face looks likes its been ran over by a truck,she looks perfectly fine to me and u're probably just criticising her cause you probably don't look any better yourself.
happyeverafter, I beg to differ with your point on how it is not shameful not to be able to speak English fluently.
Yes, it is not shameful if you have not learnt it for an extended period of time, say if you were a migrant worker needing to learn it for basic communication purposes.
It is, however, extremely shameful if you have been in school for at least ten years of your life, with the English Language being the main mode of communication and especially since English -is- the medium in which subjects, aside from Mother Tongue, is taught. It speaks for itself - the attitude towards learning, the desire to want to speak better - sorely missing.
You say Ris Low grew up in a family where Mandarin is spoken dominantly and thus, the lack of exposure, explaining her speech impediment, which in my honest opinion is utter bollocks. The issue of exposure is no longer in the books with the advent of television and sites like Youtube. I know people who come from backgrounds, that you claim Ris Low came from, speak perfect English or are at the very least effectively bilingual.
Moreover, with English as the lingua franca here, it is important that a representative of Singapore in an international be able to do this fact justice and speak reasonably fluent English.
Ris Low - sadly incoherent.
*Apologies, edit, last paragraph:
...in an international competition...
That said, I do feel bad that she has become the butt of jokes and subject of spoofs.
But, she did ask for it. And if she did enter the competition eyes wide shut, then, well,that says a lot about her, doesn't it?
Singaporean's standard of English may not always be as perfect as those of the Britain's, but definitely, it is not as trashy as her's. Sure, we do speak English and Singlish, most of the times using a varied mix of the two especially with people whom we're familiar with. More importantly is the ability to interchange the use of them. Ms Low obviously has either no sense of standard English to begin with or she just doesn't know the place and time to use Singlish. She definitely seems to be courting her death by presenting her pathetic command of English to internet viewers as a representative of Miss Singapore. Most Singaporeans try their best to speak proper English (to their best efforts) at formal events. I personally doubt Ms Low's understanding of her participation in the nationwide competition at the time of the filming for her promotional video. That being said, I do believe she will show improvement of the language for the international competition, though not to the level where she can easily put out the local flames, yet.
I am surprised at the sheer volume of venomous vitriol dispensed about Ris Low on the Internet.
As far as I can see,
1. Yes, her pronunciation leaves much to be desired. But I have heard far worse, and so has any man who's been in the army before (or maybe it's primarily women who are bashing her; the la-di-da upper class sort who don't dine in hawker centres and have a chance to hear hawker centre English).
2. Her grammar isn't actually that bad; it's not so incoherent that she's entirely incomprehensible.
3. The "hospitaterlity" thing seemed to me to be an almost-Freudian slip (she nearly said hospital and caught herself in time), which could happen to any one of us.
4. The YouTube videos seem to have been motivated by someone with an axe to grind. The videos don't merely criticise her speech - one of those even claims that she walks like a robot.
5. It's not surprising that she obtained an A1 in O Level English. Firstly, the paper isn't that tough (as the anonymous English teacher said), and secondly, it emphasises writing skills. Who's to say she can't write well (and even if she can't, she'd probably write better than a good number of Americans posting in online forums)?
6. She did not use a single lah, lor, or meh, which I find commendable.
7. She was trying her best to sound correct, and that made things worse. If she'd spoken in a typical Singaporean accent she'd probably have drawn less fire, since that'd at least sound more natural. Unfortunately, I think the speech classes might exacerbate the problem.
it doesn't matter if it's ris low or ris high representing us. we'll never win.
it's not like there had been a streak of winners from singapore, unlike venezuela. so putting ris low, or some chao ah lian smoking at far east plaza wouldn't make much of a difference at the outcome of the results.
i guess some sponsors, or organizers finally realised the fact (after so bloody long) that singaporean girls aren't really attractive at all by international standards, thus the downplay of miss singapore universe event in the recent years.
everyone should take a chill pill and feel happy for ris for getting this chance of her lifetime. hopefully after this she'll uses her new found fame to do good like eunice olson, rather than a catalyst for materialistic gratification.
To W:
Not many people here are rich snobs, kay...
And anyway, those who have never been to a hawker center are plain idiots. But since Ris Low is trying to represent Singapore, naturally she'll be criticized...and speech lessons do NOT deteriorate her speech abilities..they jus help her improve articulation, that's all...they won't tell her to put on fake accent or something...but I also feel its bad to slander her if she's trying her best...
I just saw a video clip of Ris Low on Diva Asia website. I was shocked that she couldn't speak proper English. How did she win the competition? As a Singaporean, I think it's a disgrace for her to represent us.
ha..ha... how is it possible that she got A1 for her "O" Level English??????!!! Is this a joke? ha..ha..
With her standard, I bet she failed her English Oral Exam on the spot!
No need to defend for her as the whole world will be able to judge.
p/s : I'm glad I didn't waste my time watching the competition since the judges have chosen such a person to be the winner. Yes, she is lousy. The judges are to be blamed as well (how did she even made it thru' the audition in the first place?)
"I guess you people are really blur. She is studying in a local poly. The diploma at MDIS is the second course she is taking at the same time."
If the diploma which she mentioned in the interview is ONLY the SECOND course she is taking now, why didn't she mention about the "main course" at her "local poly" (which?) that she's "taking" at the moment? duh.
it is the judges' responsibility to make sure they send out the best. RIS LOW merely participated in the contest. If the judges can be bought... sigh... no wonder many other ladies avoided contest like that.
I am embarrassed to say that I am a Singaporean if she will be representing Singapore! She is a disgrace! She must not open her mouth in the upcoming Ms Universe 2009 competition! What will the world think of Singapore? We sent the best good looking lady and she speaks like a retard!? She MUST be stripped of her title as Miss Singapore World 2009!!
isn't this a beauty contest not a speaking contest? come on man, give her some credit, she's trying her best! Gosh, singaporeans are the only groups of people in the world who would love to critic everything about their country, from being enlisted in the army to a beauty contest winner. I'm a Japanese holding Singapore PR btw (serving the army).
I'm sure Ris's fighting spirit is up there, far above the average joe's. How will you like it if someone, your own countryman,stabs you in the back? From what I conclude after watching her interviews, she sounds just like an average Singaporean girl. Please don't act all "atas" and stuff by degrading her English, because you'll only be indirectly insulting an easy 40-55% of your own local populace. She is only 19, just a year older than me (I skipped a year in school), and is able to take all the "crap" you guys throw at her, honestly, I don't know if i would be able to do the same!
If i have a chance to meet her, I'll tell her to fight on, you have my support!
Her Boomz personality certainly caused a boom.
But personally, I'm so embarrassed that she's going to represent Singapore in London.
I think generally Singaporeans are ugly in terms of character. They like to complain and criticise others.
Good to see there are still some good souls...like happyeverafter.
To Ris... just speak Singlish and be natural. I know it's not easy to speak in front of a camera. Try to give short answers.
And judges... you ought to be shot.
MyPaper exclusive - http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/Crime/Story/A1Story20090924-169805.html
Want more fuel? Now it's credit card fraud.
- K
Looks can be enhanced....
Brains can be enriched.....
But INTEGRITY....disqualify her and let the 1st runner up take over.....
With her in the headlines today, her heart of gold as mentioned earlier is questionable.
@ derrick
well said.
Yeah, "heart of gold" indeed.
"She bought two gold anklets worth almost $1,000, a $698 mobile phone, and food and drinks at a swanky restaurant." as quoted from the link above.
happyeverafter - what you got to say about your friend ?
J FUKUnishi = happyeverafter japanese version ... like a movie coming back with a different name and angle ...
i think it is about time the JUDGES come out and talk about all this ... it is getting very irritating, they keeping silent for what ... or maybe
they are just dumb bimbos and jocks who can't tok as capacity churn up a dialogue will take 10years ! tik tok tok tok ...
你们说的真是太好了！你们是最棒的，真是头头是道！相信你们放屁都比别人香！一定是会在车里时放了屁都不开窗，坚决把屁统统吸进鼻腔才会爽的人！
Seriously, who are we to judge? For decades, the label "ugly Singaporeans" is tagged to us and still is. When will we learn, when can we stop? I feel so ashamed, not for the disgrace nor the embarrassment brought by people who tried but the narrow minds of us, trying to belittle others when they failed, rubbing further on the wounds and don't even care if they hurt anyone.
20 years ago, China was thought as crude and uncilivized. We laughed, we made jokes but today, do you know how many Chinese have degree cert or higher? Millions! That's 1 degree cert for each SIngaporean, maybe more. Keep this up and i assure you, when the day China leads the World, we are still the "Ugly Singaporeans but of course, by then it would be 丑陋的新加坡人!
Yes, it's true that she didn't do a good job and screwed things up but why are you the ones critisizing? Miss World competition is an international competition, if there's really something grave about her, trust you and me, our Government will take things into their hands as they have always been. Give her a break! I'm rather surprised that she's actually handling this well (from interview with reporter) for a 19 years old. When I was 19, I hardly even stepped foot into Orchard area.
She was just nervous and caught unprepared for the sudden interview. I can see that exactly cos she's representing us, she was trying hard not to speak Singlish, so was slow and stuttered with her words. However like i said she got nervous and lost her thoughts, resulting to what we see online now.
Last but not least, please be more accepting, overlook her wrong (including her past) and focus on her good. Her courage, her physical qualities, "kind heart" (as quoted by happyeverafter) Mark Lee said in his movie 三个好人, "法官判了我十年，你们却判我一辈子！" Don't be so quick to judge, especially when you do not know the person well. Spare the judgement, you may need that one fine day too.
PS: I'm from a neighbourhood school, only got D7 for my English, so please forgive me if i have lots of error in this relatively long message... and PLEASE spare me the judgement! :)
To Fukunishi,
If one person said that she is not up to standard, this person may be against her. If so many of us said that she is lousy, she is DEFINITELY LOUSY!
A beauty contest is not to pick an 'air head'. The winner must be beautiful, have wisdom, speak well and carry herself well. (She has problem even with simple sentence construction...)
In this case, it is pretty obvious that our so-called Ms Singapre (Ris Low) has none of the above!
She is a joke. She is not to represent Singaproe. I love my country. I love my people. We shouldn't let her destroy our World Class image! We have a reputation to upkeep and she is not to damage it!
If I'm not wrong, someone mentioned that she has a Heart of Gold??? I seriously questioned that.
By the way, I read in the papers yesterday that she used customers' credit cards to make purchases and paid for dinner, etc.
The headline was "Miss Singapore World convicted of credit card fraud in May".
Hot topic :
http://comment.straitstimes.com/showthread.php?t=24966
Majority wants her to step down.
first of all, even my grandma can speak better than her.
secondly, sure we all have got empathy. but look at this pageant, and who we're competing with. it's an 'international' kinda thing. it's not some miss teenage magazine or miss 'beauty above brains'... we're competing with the WORLD... she'd be such an embarrassment!!!
lol. Stop arrowing her with her dark past. I'm sure all of us have done something wrong in the past, so stop acting so holy. Furthermore, she has already expressed regret on what she's done, i mean, how many people would actually have the courage to admit? I would have some trouble doing it myself. It's really amazing, foreigners looking upon our newspapers and laughing at the amount of "support" we are showing our very own Miss Singapore, lol. The verdict has been announced, she IS miss Singapore, even if you like it or not. lol. happyeverafter japanese version? nah. cause i dun know her personally lol, but at least i dun rub salt into the emotional wounds of individuals, i think it's a really cowardly thing to do, especially if you are a guy.
ris
if you are reading all the blogs ... just a piece of advice
your luck is good but with your luck you get into deep-shit trouble. please get your astrology chart read or get some really really really good help.
you are still very young and if bipolar is correct or an excuse on your rebellious behaviour, i would advice you to please get help besides medications that will fry your brains up!
the vision of good prosperous life is what everyone wants, but how to get it sometimes people do the wrong things including being somebodies keep especially in times of vulnerability, greed or illusion.
now .... blame the judges, blame the education system here and teachers whom never corrected the students in their growing up years to build a firm foundation, blame the ever going .... campaigns for screwing up singaporeans tongues ...
lets put pressure on the judges """ JUDGES SPEAK UP ... JUDGES SPEAK UP ... JUDGES SPEAK UP ... are you old time ah lians and ah sengs or just in to pocket the money and have a good laugh ! """
haaa ... FUKU nishi
if this were to happen in japan, like the recent case of the singer who took drugs and the many many cases of embarassment there, how will the japanese there react to something this ?
scratch scratch scatch ... u sure don't sound like japanese even a
i don't think we are rubbing salt, we are TRYING our best to save the reputation of SINGAPORE for going bonkers in the eye of the world. the world look at us as part of china and a one man show cabaret, what else is there to add on!
lol to the anon person making fun of my name. Go ahead, i've had my fair share of name calling in the army, but i've gotten used to it lol.
I grew up in Singapore, hence the Singapore PR and the involvement in the Singapore gossip scene.
Regarding your reference to the japanese pop star, opinions are split between supporting her honesty and those blackening her name regarding her drug usage.
I don't know about you, but i find name calling rather childish, don't get me started on racism, lol you claim i dun sound japanese, may i ask you do you even have a japanese friend to begin with? Or are you lumping all Japanese together based on your perception that all Japanese are sushi eating, short people who are infused with so called "samurai honour" (bushido)? I'd strongly advice you to stay on topic, and not start any race/name related arguments here.
You also mentioned you were trying to save the reputation of Singapore. For your info, this is on the internet, in case you have not noticed, and thus, viewable to millions, if not billions of viewers online ALL over the world, as compared to the meager amount of foreigners reading our local papers. What do they see? a bunch of Singaporeans critisising their own beauty queen, the sad thing is, it seemed that the only support she is getting is from a singapore PR serving the army, protecting a bunch of ungrateful people. It's really sad, really to see you guys making fun of your own people. People in Japan actually voice out support for the likes of Noriko Sakai who was arrested on drug charges.
As a member of the Singapore Armed Forces and a racial minority in this country, i'm appalled on what you guys assume to be the "holy crusade" to save the image of Singapore, when millions of web users have access to your rants. My advice is, before crtisizing others, fix your attitude first. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye"- Matthew 7:3
You also mentioned you were trying to save the reputation of Singapore. For your info, this is on the internet, in case you have not noticed, and thus, viewable to millions, if not billions of viewers online ALL over the world, as compared to the meager amount of foreigners reading our local papers. What do they see? a bunch of Singaporeans critisising their own beauty queen, the sad thing is, it seemed that the only support she is getting is from a singapore PR serving the army, protecting a bunch of ungrateful people. It's really sad, really to see you guys making fun of your own people. People in Japan actually voice out support for the likes of Noriko Sakai who was arrested on drug charges.
As a member of the Singapore Armed Forces and a racial minority in this country, i'm appalled on what you guys assume to be the "holy crusade" to save the image of Singapore, when millions of web users have access to your rants. My advice is, before crtisizing others, fix your attitude first. "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye"- Matthew 7:3
i luv noriko sakai and the mrs hatoyama ... great honest people!
isn't Ris also honest in admitting, and not challging others about her dark past? furthermore she also expressed regret too.
We,as Singaporeans, have no right to criticize Ris Low.
But the judges, as judges, have the right to strip her of her title, in which I strongly support.
Singapore MUST NOT send her to participate in an international competition. She would be the thorn amidsts the many roses.
I'm sure she is a nice girl, but she does nothave the qualifications to participate.
To Fukunishi,
Who are u to critise Singaporeans? If you are not happy, then get lost!
We asked Ris to step down because we love our country.
Ris does not deserve to be Ms Singapore. She does not have the necessary qualities.
She is a dishonest person.
She shouldn't be let off easily. 24 months probation for such a crime?
Btw, don't bring in any organisation (e.g. SAF) or any religion cos' your comments may embarrased them. ha..ha..ha..
give her a chance, support the yellow ribbon project!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fukunishi = happyeverafter = llol
writting style is the same!
emotional and bringing irrevelant topic into the picture. lol
who is matthew by the way ...
Yellow project has nothing to do with Ris!
Like my uncle said just now, Ris is a crook!
For those who support Ris, face the fact - SHE COMMITTED A CRIME. SHE IS NOT FIT TO REPRESENT SINGAPORE. HER ENGLISH IS WAY BELOW AVERAGE.
Come on, majority of the Singaporeans at her age can speak better than her.
Not being able to speak proper English is besides the point now. The main point is...why try too hard to pull off a fake accent which went all wrong? Since her diction is already terrible, why even try to slang when it makes it sound so freaking disgusting? Just be natural about things, and all will be fine. It really disgusts me when someone is so fake. Their sincerity is really questionable? If she thought that she could impress others out there with her "OH SO WONDERFUL ACCENT", then I am sorry to say that she is "OH SO WRONG".
With regards to integrity, shouldn't that be an important and crucial determining factor? When harmless photos of Rachel Kum having nights of fun and not causing anybody harm, were spread around, people couldn't wait for her title to be stripped off. Now?
Ris Low just can't make it. She is not even a bimbo to start of with. She is just plain dumb and FAKE!
Quote from Ris Low, "It is made serious because my offence is a legal one."
What does this mean? Someone please translate this foreign language for me.
I have no idea why people keep saying we should be ashamed of ourselves because we singaporeans are faulty just like her and since we're the same we have no rights to criticize her. This argument makes no sense at all. So what if half of us cannot speak or write english properly? So what if the system is screwed up? THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE BLAME THE SYSTEM OR OURSELVES AND DEEM HER AS FAULTLESS. There's still people much more deserving of the title than her and THE PROBLEM THAT WE SHOULD ARGUE FOR IS WHY SHE SHOULDN'T BE OUR REPRESENTATIVE and NOT why we should stop arguing just cos we are just as "bad" as her.
Jun-san said that " people from over the world can see a bunch of Singaporeans critisising their own beauty queen" and that we're embarrasing ourselves by doing that. BUT TRUTH IS, EVERY NETIZEN IS VOICING OUT SOME KIND OF CONCERN OR THEIR OWN ARGUMENTS ABOUT STH IN THEIR COUNTRY. IT'S NOT JUST US. THERE'S LOTS MORE CRITCS AND AMATEURS DISCUSSING ABOUT SIMILAR STUFF EVERYWHERE AROUND THE WORLD. It's common.
And what do you mean by ungrateful people? That is totally irrelevant. Whether we are grateful to the army or not, has nothing to do with the beauty contest.
Jun Fukunishi,
there is no plank in our eyes. We can see very clearly that Ris is unfit to represent our country.
Since u quote from the bible, i'm sure the bible mentioned about stealing and stealing is a sin.
Ris should know that news of her crime will leak out sooner or later.
lol. to those who say that i am the same person as happyeverafter, i beg to differ, cause i am NOT, and have no reason to lie. How would our writing styles be similiar? just because of the grammatical structures we use? Grow up, if thats the case i can say all the anons are the same. Stealing is a crime, yes, but the bible also mentions about forgiveness for those who repent with their heart. Don't call me Jun-san. Lol, to the anon who asked me to "get lost" for "critisizing" singaporeans, honestly, I love this country in which i grew up in, so i'll decline the offer to "get lost."
Ah well, since you guys are so critical, go ahead and rant all you want about her, but it sure does not change the fact that she IS your beauty queen after all, even if you like it or not, no point making fun of me etc, cause i can't change any outcome of the contest lol!
To the anon who assumed that happyaverafter and I are the same, i guess you're stereotyping all people who articulate their sentances in a similiar structure to be the "same person", sorry to burst your bubble, mate, but we're not. Similiar ideology/manner of speech does not equate to the same person cowardly using two usernames to give the illusion that he's rallying support from others. We're not that low.
It's sad to see you guys ranting about her, really, all of a sudden I see an urge of "Singapore patriotism" in you guys of not wanting to "disgrace singapore."
Why not let Rachel Kum represent Singapore then? Her english is perfect and so is her appearence. However, the papers, wanting a story, dug up some of her personal history (her "wild" 21st b'day) and used it against her.
You seriously think this is an issue on who represents Singapore? I don't think so, because the "perfect" beauty queen can never be found, simply because no one is perfect.
As for "local" who claim that you do not have a "plank" in your eye, think again, i suggest you look back on the posts the majority have posted and then try making an educated conclusion.
Come on guys, give her credit for trying!
to the anon who asked "who is Matthew." He is one of the diciples of Jesus. And please do not stereotype everyone who types in a similar manner as the same person. If you actually bother to read in depth, and think of what i have written, you'd notice that i have not been going off topic.
To all users: I acknowledge the effort Ris puts in reconizing and correcting her liguistic related issues. Given, she does not speak well, but give her credit for trying. Secondly, she admitted to the wrongdoings in the past, i mean, all of us done something wrong in a moment of folly right?
My last message to you guys before going is....be more supportive of your fellow Singaporeans!!
p.s. Is it so hard in acknowledging that a japanese-chinese serves in the singapore army? I got no reason to lie. Hope this answers any nay-sayers or speculators that I may be faking. haha trust me, i got no reason to lie to people i don't know.
I bid thee Goodnight!
lol. I know another japanese-chinese serving in the army, haha doubt you will know him lol..commandos! hahah anyways, i dun care luh lol dun wan to trouble myself with these issues lol. why you guys all care so much lol. all like fighting online.. can feel the angst from behind the screen sial. lol. Rachel Kum is my friend, nice person lol.
She is a big joke.
lol ... i smellsss the ratsss
from a japanese now its japanese-chinese +- pr ... can u decide what you are ...you got bipolar too? pls seek medical attention fast as it will sure wreaks havoc and matthew will not help as he is somewhere way above all of us here !llol
why u bring the army in the picture ha! you got a problem with the army here is it or u showing how great you are serving the army here ?
i smellss ratsss and zibraas ... lol
Let us cool down and analyze, a person character of Miss Ris Low, at the age of 17yrs committed such a crime (credit cards fraud), mean that she was a lazy cum materialism person who chase for luxury lifestyle by any means.
Got caught and got two years probation sentence, during the two years , I don’t think she repented, still hope that she could use her sexy appearance to exchange for fame, even lied to the beauty entry prerequisite, she should know herself very well about her own academic ability, but yet she dare to go ahead to the contest.
She even won the contest in the end, what kinds of system are Singapore beauty contests using all the time?? On paper it may seem all kinds of rules and regulation , behind the screen, all kinds of dirty practices appeared, if nothing happen we praise ourselves our leadership, when faults or mistakes a raised, we finds some scapegoats and points all fingers at them, this is Singapore right??
I strongly felt that it wasn’t her fault, this got to go Singapore social roots, our social roots got a damn big problems, and it will get even bigger if our government don’t care, they only focus on the potential family, their kids and their future, who care about those kids who weren’t attending school, loitering around the hdb voidecks or malls, smoking, playing poker cards, taking alcohol and having early hood sexual intercourse , and why their parents don’t know how to guide them?
Will they become another example of their parent in the future? Can we blame those kids or theirs parents?
What natural resources do Singapore have, nothing but human being, why don’t our government cherish our only resource, we will just a small country with little population, is it very difficult to accomplish? What future do Singapore have?
Ris Low is the one with problem.
She should know that it's wrong to commit such a crime! Frankly, if you ask a pre-schooler, he / she would also tell you that it is wrong to steal...
Ris is a thief... whether u like it or not..
Extracted from Straits Times :
Student Glennice Yong, 17, felt that the latest revelation provided one more reason for Miss Low to step down.
'Not only does she not speak well, she was also involved in credit card fraud. Now, there are two problems,' she said.
Don't you guys have better things to do than replying just to critisize on others? Happyeverafter is defending for his very friend he deems worthy. Who or What are you attacking for? The 1st runner up or the contestants who lost to her? Don't tell me you are doing it for the whole Nation, I know I don't need that, so do many others. If it doesn't really concern you shut the xxxx up! If you really need to bitch, bitch over a drink with your friends.
Comment once or twice is enough, there's no need to go over and over and over and over and over again and again! This whole issue doesn't concern most of you who critisized yet you made it sounds like it has everything to do with you! You relative of Ris or member of the Parliaments? Do you think by writing those shits make you any holier than Ris? Everyone has their can of worms, just that Ris' was opened. Wait till yours is open and see if you will prefer the criticism or the mercy. 己所不欲，勿施于人. Do more good, not evil. If you have something good to comment, feel free to write it. If you have something negative you really want to voice out, write it once. That's it! There's no need to emphasize or even amplify on things.正所谓得饶人处且饶人!
to John
if you find its a waste of time, then WHY are writting on this blog ?
don't act like a good samaritan with a halo above your head.
everybody has the right to comment. incase you are not aware, its call free speech and right to express until the moderator thinks its enough.
I never say it's a waste of time to write blog but the fact that people can go over and over and over just to critisize for others. Why the childish act? Did she offend you in person? Just treat it like you are watching a show or reading a book and get over with. I'm not trying to be nice, i too find that she spoke badly on screen but I didn't find the need to rub it in. So why are you so against Ris?
to John
whatever it is, your should say " you people on the blog " not " you "
most of the writers are just stating facts based on what they have read or seen ... only a handful that is critical and handful is very helpful.
so there is a good mix of people.
Ya la. When i said you, it's only to those who are critical and childish, not all who commented. Btw just want to add freedom of speech doesn't equate to babbling non stop. You made your point, just move on.
To: happyeverafter,
Now that the shit has hit the fan, I wonder what do you have to say?
Let's face it- the charges are not just a "moment's folly" as this bimbo claims. (It's a wonder that she even knows what 'folly' means). A 'moment's folly' might be someone who has implusively fliched a lipstick ONCE.
Nope, she WILLFULLY used 7 people's credit cards, to the tune of S$8,000 and it was 60 charges.
That doesn't seem like a 'moment's folly'. That seems like calculated theft. Simple as that.
To: happyeverafter,
From: Jane
One more question for you (I was the one who wrote the other question about the 'shit hitting the fan') - you seem to be so defensive, and I believe that you also went into another forum trying to defend Ris.
Well, my question for you is all this crap about her getting A1 - like others have said before, A1s will get you into poly.
And now that the Sunday Times i/v is out (27Sept), she apparently didn't have A1. So just what are you talking about? Did you think that all the shit wasn't going to hit the fan?
Did you think that just because she somehow mananged to pull off the probation thing (which btw, surprised quite alot of people because of the extent of the crime) -- did she think that she could also pull off not informing the pagaent organisations, or even signing off on the pre-requisite form as not having any criminal offence?
Did she think that people are going to 'carry' her so far?
When one has such a minset, it often means one thing in a psychologist's DSM-IV list...
I refrain from posting after a while because I do not see any point in doing so.
Yes, she is a personal friend of mine but it does not mean that I condone or agree with what she has done.
At the outset, I have said that I did not wish for her to win and I think she is not good enough to win - but unfortunately, she won.
We have talked about her poor English and diction and pronunciation and there is no need to go further into this. I have told her to speak naturally - like what she is doing everyday, unfortunately for the first interview - I think she was ill-prepared and she was nervous (first time being interviewed) and she "tried" too hard to "sound good" - it backfired big time as we now have the classic video.
Yes, she is damn atrocious in the interview. When she listen to herself - she gave herself "0" marks as she wanted to hide her face as well. But sad to say, it is all for the world to see.
That interview was done on July 3rd and for almost a month while it was on the internet, no one took much notice of it. The finals itself was on 31st July. But after she won, that interview video became very hot especially after a sunday times article about how we were so mean to our beauty queen.
That is so much for her spoken English. Yes, very bad. But she won. And she was judged during the finals but not using the interview. If everyone feels that she is ill-suited to represent Singapore - complain to the contest organizer. What is the use of bashing her? Yes, you can bash her for all you want but it won't change the outcome.
And then in end September the credit card fraud was publicized. Now, as a friend, I was aware of this. At the outset, I have advised her not to participate in this Miss Singapore World contest. And along the way, I have asked her to quit many times. Even after she won, I have advised her to quit. But of course, she is very determined. It is her dream and being a friend, I can only support her in spirit.
The offence was committed in 2008 - when she was not even 18 years of age. It was of course wrong and madness of her. She just went on a spree of using other's credit cards. Yes, it was a crime she committed. She was caught. Sentencing was only done this May - more than a year after the offence. The court put her on 2-years probation. The court must have considered a couple of factors and even though the crime is serious, she was a young girl with mental disorder when she committed the crime - not an excuse - just mitigating factors. If you are not happy with the court's decision, then go question the courts.
I am not going to talk about her mental disorder and how it is affecting her. Suffice to say, the courts took that into account to give her 2 years probation - meaning she cannot leave the country without explicit permission and she has to be home every night before 10:00pm. That is the punishment of her crime by the courts. She is paying for it. Why punish her further?
We are not court judges, are we? Whether she should be stripped of her title or not, it is really up to the contest organizer to decide. If you want to put pressure, pressure the contest organizer. There is really no point for you to bash her.
Even criminals of more vicious crimes are given second chances. What's more, a crime committed by a young girl with mental disorder. We cannot give her a second chance? She is already being punished for her crime and we should just let everything settle down.
Let the contest organizers do their part. If you feel strongly about her being not qualified to represent Singapore - then do something more fruitful other than attack a young girl behind the anonymity of the internet.
Ya. You are right. Not a moment of folly. 60 plus charges in consideration. But the honourable judge had already given her the sentencing. What's more do you want. Do you want to appeal against the sentence? If you feel so strongly that her punishment is inadequate, then do something about it other than hide behind the internet and "talk cock".
And lastly I am not
Jun Fukunishi
or Ris Low.
I can meet anyone who wants to verify my identity.
Mollie-san
I would not say she is "faultless". Yes, she has a lot of shortcomings and she even committed a crime. And she is paying for her crime... so just move on.
But we cannot deny that the "system" is at fault too. If she is so "bad" as everyone is saying - and she can win the title - don't you think that something is wrong with the system?
to John,
There's nothing wrong with people giving their views.
You can't stop them. You said that they have nothing better to do.. Well, they are stating facts.
Ris Low doesn't deserve our respect! She is low... really low... Ok, i can forgive her if she don't hold the title of Ms Singapore. Ms Singapore must not be of such quality.
She is going to win it cos she goes BOOM..... Wahahaha.. What a JOKE.
She is a CONVICT. A THIEF a FRAUDSTER. She should be sentenced to jail for credit card theft and shoplifting.
Anonymous said...
"She is a CONVICT. A THIEF a FRAUDSTER. She should be sentenced to jail for credit card theft and shoplifting."
Why don't you be a judge and sentence her? She had committed a fraud and she was sentenced. So please stop trying to play judge and give her more punishment.
Risky said...
"You can't stop them. You said that they have nothing better to do.. Well, they are stating facts."
Not everyone is stating facts. All the facts are already reported in the papers. A lot of people are just passing judgement..
As for respect, no. You don't have to respect her. Yes, she screwed up big time and probably won't have many fans. Only the organizers can strip her of the title. If people are really so adamant about stripping her of the title, then do something and "pressure" the organizers. Bashing or judging her is useless.
alex and his malaysian business partner - its about time you bring your business somewhere else.
we do not need bengs and lians to run international campaigns.
put the pressure on the judges ...
To: happyeverafter
From: Jane
Yada, yada. You seem to be defending alot, and in other forums, the word, "second chances" seem to be bandied about now.
My question to you is that - don't you think the fact that the judge gave her a probation instead of a jail term, means that she HAS ALREADY BEEN GIVEN a second chance?
And what did she do with this second chance? She simply went on to try and hide this fact, didn't declare it on the pre-requisite form, and then try to lie about whether ERM knows about it - look at all the contradictory things she is saying about them knowing, and all the to-ing and fro-ing since this has broken out.
What does this say about her integrity? What does this say about her not appreciating that second chance the judge gave her.
And everyone else- go take a look at the numerous Razor TV videos on the pageant - you just have to go to the site and do a search. Plenty of pretteir and more articulate girls, but why this result?
Don't you think that already says alot about this sordid saga?
C'mon, give her more chances, let her go and take part as i believe she can win it just like how she did it this time round. But whatever method, she can do it one. Hahahaha.
u guys are so funni n obviously beri free (like me!)..
anyway i dun wan her to represent the nation and people.
waitin to hear news abt her being stripped of the title... :)
If they strip her title, then they will be at risk of having their credit card stolen. HO HO HO.
jane,
The sentence already given by the courts. It is already close. No point to argue about what she deserve for the crime she committed. It is OVER. Don't need to yada yada.
As for ERM, they are probably the most culpable. I shall not shall more. They as organizers are pretty silent on this - quite unthinkable. Do you know what else they don't and the did not say or take action.
Before the fraud was published in the papers - they (ERM) are in the know and they did nothing. Even till today, there is no action from them or any statement. What does that mean? I don't know. I don't want to speculate on things that I don't know.
No point going to Razor's tv and watch the video. It does not change the fact that she was crowned Miss Singapore World. She still is Miss Singapore World even if 1 million girls are better than her. This is a fact you can't change - unless they stripped her of the title.
She cannot speak well. She may not be the best person to represent Singapore. She has committed a crime.
But the fact is:
a) She was already sentenced
b) She still is Miss Singapore World
Whether you all like it or not.. it is a fact that you can't change. You can continue to bash her or to ridicule her for all you want. It reflects more on yourselves than her.
So, until and unless ERM strip her of the title, she will represent Singapore. Just hope that she will improve on her speech and seize the opportunity to show that despite being a criminal convicted of fraud, she is able to hold her head high and press on to achieve her dream.
Anyway, I don't think I am going to post here anymore.
Apparently, ERM has took some action.
So everything should stop here.
To happyeverafter:
I agree we need to change the system, but she is a product of the failed system, and if we want to stop and correct the failed system, shouldn't we "remove" or prevent the image of the products of our failed system from spreading as soon as possible, for propagating her image all around, calling her ms singapore, and supporting the fact she is the image of "the near-perfect and chosen ms singapore that we should follow" just serves to worsen the situation? Doesn't continuing to make her the ms singapore show that we are never going to make a positive change, as you wanted, in the system?
Awwww man, it's sad that she gave up, if not she 100% will win it with a BOOM BOOM BOOMz. Now she can go back and continue studying STEEL.
Its not only about looking good..Its also about speaking properly.sad to say...she doesnt even look good..you bloody judges out there..is this some kind of sick joke???and to happy ever after,you're such a great friend to stand up for Ris.hey get real bro...who cares whether she is kind hearted or helps uncles and aunties...its a f@#!in beauty contest.what counts is the outside not the inside...its all about superficiality..come on you have to agree with me on this..we all want a gorgeous,well-versed babe to represent our country, dont we..???sorry about your friend but shes gotta know herself and how good she is before participating in such competitions where criticisms are aplenty and you gotta be kick-ass material and not just some kind-hearted girl-next-door who speaks like a bimbo.
whos gonna go to South Africa now...???BOOMZ!!!haiyah..see lah, now got no representatatatiive for our country.what about Tammy??...she would be better orally...hahahaha
I throw cigarette butt i kena saman!! credit card fraud want to represent singapore..can meh??maybe can lah hor.make singapore more popular..heeheehorhor......BOOMZZZZZZZZZZ!
maybe the garmen take action ... erm marketing good for nothing ...
to happyeverafter,
don't need to defend her.. she is OUT..ha..ha..ha...
she is no more Ms Singapore!
we're celebrating as we won't be represented by a sub-standard cheater!
happyeverafter,
People are stating facts.
Ris Low = Lousy english, no looks, crook!
These are all facts. Prove me wrong then. U'll never ever be able to prove me wrong cos' I'm right.
Even the blind can tell the right from wrong. But u....... go and read straits times if u still need more info on her horrible english and the crime she committed.
Anonymous said...
u guys are so funni n obviously beri free (like me!)..
anyway i dun wan her to represent the nation and people.
waitin to hear news abt her being stripped of the title... :)
September 28, 2009 11:56 PM
So glad to hear the great news! My wish cam true! its always better to be resigned than to be stripped of it...
yeah!! yeah!!! lets celebrate! =D
Risky,
"People are stating facts."
PLEASE OPEN your eyes to read.
Some said:
a) She bought the crown
b) She slept with the judges
c) She bought her "O" level cert
All these are FACTS?
Those may not be the facts and I agree that no baseless assumptions should be made in such a crude way. But i stand for making comments and taking sides. I urge everyone on this - Everyone is entitled to their freedom of speech provided every word they said spells their good reasons and intentions and some not meaningless hurtful words. Or else, all are just brainless comments of no help.
Those may not be the facts and I agree that no baseless assumptions should be made in such a crude way. But i stand for making comments and taking sides. I urge everyone on this - Everyone is entitled to their freedom of speech provided every word they said spells their good reasons and intentions and not just some meaningless hurtful words. Or else, all are just brainless comments of no help.
Well. We are not going to miss her for long as she said in today's news that she will come back (when she qualifies legally as an ex-convict) to claim her crown. I have spotted a question what the judges will ask her... In Singapore you gave lashes to an alien (who comes from a culture where grafiti is an art form) for his expresions and you people banned chewing gum. What do you do to credit card frauds? It is clear she is a recalcitrant cheat, the stunt she just pulled has paled the credit card steal to a mere joke. It must have cost the pageant organiser hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars losses is not a surprise. If dealt with correctly the courts in Singapore would have hauled her back to be sentensed appropriately. As for those forgiving Singaporeans you would have realised that you placed your sympathy wrongly after you have read what I said. If you still support her and felt she had been unfairly dealt with, you are equally guilty of the crime.
Not only she is brainless and speak super lousy 'Engrish'. She is also self-centred, conceited and a consummate liar!
All hail the ex-convict. She will be coming back with a BOOMZ. But in the mean time, she will go and swipe more credit cards first.
We just missed the chance to claim the Miss World Title. Actually the pageant Organisers were clever, they had picked one that they are confident can pull a hat-trick this time. Her credentials: amassed so many credit cards that are not hers and used them and then fooled the organisers that she's clean and paraded in bigini and boomz she's Miss Sinagapore. If she goes to JoeBird she sure will bring back for us the crown. What a loss. Malulah Singapura.
Nice one Convict/Liar. Finally u did something right by giving up the title which should rightfully belongs to someone else. *Clap Clap*
But at least you still have the title of liar. Cheers.
happyeverafter,
Whatever... she no longer holds the title and that's the most important!
OF COURSE, I OPEN MY EYES WIDE... I SEE A PERSON WITH NO QUALITIES FOR ME TO LOOK UP TO...HA..HA.. RIS LOW IS A JOKE.. HA..HA...HA....HA....
happyeverafter,
hmm... i can't help to agree with the rest.. ha..ha..ha...
How do u know that she didn't do the (a), (b) and (c)?
Even if they are not fact, people want you to see the fact that SHE IS UNFIT TO BE MS SINGAPORE!
U're the one who needs to open your eyes!
risky,
Don't try to wriggle your way out. You said others stating facts and I point out three that are "rumours" and "speculations".
Yes I never deny the fact that she is not good enough or unfit. But I just want to say, that when we say something we have to be responsible and not just speculate and then say they are facts. When challenged, don't try to say: "How do you know if they are not true". If you say something about some person, you have to prove it and not for me to disprove it.
Like I can say you are a whore... or a duck for that matter.. How can you disprove it if I insisted that you are one? And then I pass it on as a fact? Don't you find it ridiculous.
happyeverafter is Ris Low's friend. that explains why he/she is so defensive.
Relax, relax, happyeverafter. It's normal for people to voice their opinions. Why get so emotional?
Dear all,
see what kind of friend Ris Low has.
Calling others a whore... u're the whore! HA..HA... HA... U'RE VERY ENTERTAINING... HA..HA..HA....
The more you defend, the more lowly I think of Ris Low and you!
there's no happyeverafter for both of u..ha..ha...ha...
Just to clarify :
happyeverafter, whatever u call me.. u're one.
To voice out opinions is ok. But to pass on speculations as facts is not OK. Just because we hide behind the internet, we don't have to be responsible for what we say?
risky,
I am just saying as an example like I accusing you of being a "whore".. and then state it as a fact.. and you are laughing.. as you know it is ridiculous to anyhow accuse someone of something he/she is not.
So similarly, you all may laugh and ridicule her of her poor command of English language or condemn her for the fraud. But just don't pass on some speculations as facts.
That is all I am saying.
hey happyeverafter,
you're making a damn fool of yourself...
is Ris paying you for this you retard???
hey happyeverafter,
cut your philosophical crap about our opinions and judgement.we all know the truth about Ris and what she has done.just accept it dear pal.no amount of philosophy will change the fact so save your bad breath....
Anonymous said...
"hey happyeverafter,
you're making a damn fool of yourself...
is Ris paying you for this you retard???"
What so retarded? Just intolerant when someone don't agree with you you resort to calling people retard?
happyeverafter,
for your information,WE are not hiding behind the internet as YOU claim.i would gladly reveal myself to you so watch your mouth....
What truths are you talking about?
Truth is: she is bad in English. Truth is she committed fraud and was sentenced. And yes, you could infer her integrity and she could be a liar. That is about all. Nothing philosophical about it.
Beyond that. What truths are you talking about?
I don't dispute those truths.
I did not spread rumours and then passed on those as facts. I did not speculate and said those are facts. I have nothing to fear..
hey happyeverafter,
its not that no one is agreeing with me...its YOU.you are just not seeing the truth.oh well,my opinion stands and i dont really care less what you think.have fun little boy and go try to convince the world that your dearest Ris is such a innocent victim...
I never say she is an innocent victim. Did I?
Now tell me what truths are you talking about. You just say "truths" and you are not saying what are those.
I have pointed out some truths and some speculations - and I think it is irressponsible to pass speculations as truths.
It is ok to give opinions. It is OK to state facts. And you can even make fun of other people using those facts.
But it is NOT OK to speculate and then say these speculations as truths.
And that is all I am saying.
hi everyone...
my name is Lis Row...i was mees Sinkapoh but i leesign beclos they teen i am a cheeta(from the zoo) but i only sweep the cledit clads onee wat.big deel lah.evelybody makes meestakes mah.i am onlee human.my engrish?ok lah.not so good but oso not veli bad mah.i only Boomz once...
Ris Low=Happyeverafter=Boomz=???
hey J fukunishi,
YES WE ARE SINGAPOREANS AND WE LOVE TO CRITICIZE..WE ARE SPEAKING OUR MINDS MY FRIEND AND WE ARENT AFRAID TO DO SO.DONT TRY TO SOUND LIKE THE GOOD OLE HYPOCRITE YOU YOUNG SUSHI...PERHAPS YOU WILL NEVER BE LIKE A TRUE SINGAPOREAN.ITS JUST YOUR CULTURE BUT DONT TRY TO MAKE US SOUND BAD.YOU JAPS ARENT THAT GREAT ANYWAYS!!!
yO jUN WHATEVER SHI,
YOU THINK YOU'RE ONE HELL OF A JAPPO, SERVING NS IN SINGAPORE AND PASSING COMMENTS ABOUT US SINGAPOREANS.SHOVE YOUR COMMENTS DOWN YOUR THROAT AND GO BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY.MY GRANDFATHER WAS KILLED BY YOUR COUNTRYMEN YOU FISHROLL...
we are a patriotic bunch,us singaporeans and i feel j whatever shi should just shut up and not pass any comments about singaporeans coz he has no right to do so.
hey fukunishi,
save the plank and sawdust shit.you're japanese and you have no right to comment on us singaporeans.please dont appear anymore.go pray for world peace or at least go pray for whats going on in your country before bothering about what goes on here.serve your NS and Boomz away to Japan you katsudon....
happyeverafter,
I'M NOT HIDING... WHY SHOULD I? I'M NOT DISGRACEFUL.. I'VE DONE NOTHING WRONG UNLIKE RIS LOW..
IT'S U AND RIS LOW WHO SHOULD GO INTO HIDING.
Time to step down and swipe more credit cards. Everyone beware!
OMG, the runner up is so pretty compared to the liar. But i suppose the liar won as she dare to commit credit card fraud. POWER. Go liar Go.
smart singaporean women look like shit that's why I'm chosen to represent singapore. Cause I'm the most beautiful smart singaporean bitch there is. Now where's my zipbra preens?
The more I read this, the most i'm awed by how subjective some singaporeans are. I defend the truth that Ris Low is a faudster and not qualified to be Ms Singapore. But how did this conversation churn out to a wave of name-callings? As the matter of fact, Ris Low did not bought her crown, sleep with judges or bought her 'O' level cert, until PROVEN. So let's be a bit more objective in seeing this whole episode.
Low risk does not mean no risk
I love Ris Low.Im a big fan of yours Ris.Who cares whether u can speak propery or not,you ROCK!!!You are real and not ashamed of how you speak.you dare to commit a crime but you are clean now.Who can dare claim that they've never made a mistake,PLEASE STAND UP!!!I LOVE YOU RIS!!!The rad Zipbra preens went BOOMZ!!!
Back to the topic.
Firstly, Ris Low is too ordinary looking (or ugly) to be Ms Singapore. Yes, the runner up looks much better and more educated.
Secondly, her English is atrocious.
Lastly, she is a liar and is convicted of fraud.
Thank god, she is no longer our Ms Singapore.
Runner up where got pretty.Please lah, you blind or wat??Ris prettier lah...runner up like Ah Huay
We'll forgive but we'll never forget.
Ris and ERM will be remembered as the joke of the century..
Anyway, the whole world knows of her crime now.
And ERM can't run away from the fact that they made a mistake for making her the winner.
Why are u insulting the runner up? u blind and deaf or u don't recognise beauty.
If runner up is like what u said, then Ris Low is ah lian.. or alien.
Ris is a liar that goes BOOMz and credit card fraud specialist. Nice.
With Ris Low out of the picture, I am once again proud to call Singapore my home.
Let's just give her a break..she's still young and people do make mistake..
But I think she's creating a bigger mockery of herself with the latest back stabbing issue by the 1st runner up..
Is she ever going to stop?
We want to forget the issue but this dumb Ris Low still refuse to give up her nonsense.
She is a loser...
She mentioned something about people forget this in 2 yrs and she'll be a shining star... Wake up, dumbo. We, Singaporeans, have pretty good memory.
Ris Low has flat face, big teeth, very very bad personlaity, in fact a very ugly personality and God save my ears from her spoken English! Just when the world now sees how dumb and self-centered this bitch is, she has no remorse for her wrong-doings and is now even accusing other contestants of exposing her criminal records. Worse, she has simply just confirmed her ugly personality with the recent inetrview saying that after she graduate she wants to enjoy life (keep her away from credit cards everyone, banks included!!) and hopes to return to stage 2 years later as she loves being the centre of attention. Yes Miss dumbo, u are already the centre of attraction..she is already a big laughing stock! And another thing, my advice to her is to stay away from the zoo as she may scare the animals away! Also, best she dont talk as it exposes all her ugly personality, horrifying English and poor sense of fashion. I hope that she will learn her lesson soon as she appears not to have as yet. And i also now believe that a true beauty must be one with beauty and gracve from the inside before they can carry their assets well on the outside, and nope she aint got any inside nor outside.
Shut your trap, Ris.
Enough is enough.
Ris should keep a low profile and stop making a fool of herself.
Ris Low,
Please forget about the come back part. Second chance is not like what you think. The short story is: to be a Beauty Queen is to be an Ambassador for the nation representing The President and the people of Singapore only because you are endowed with a diferent quality.In other words as good as being a President. Can the nation accept a person with your record to be the President? if the answer is yes then dream on. Meantime I give you a second chance, go and concentrate on your studies, keep low profile. My son had served his time inside too, now he is having a decent job earning a handsome pay and is planning to buy a private property, but there are many jobs he must forget existed, eg. all those associated to the Government.
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